========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Oct 1996 13:03:28 -0700 Reply-To: corbett@eps.harvard.edu Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: David Sewell Subject: Job announcement: mass spectrometer operator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit [I'm forwarding this for the folks at Harvard--please direct any response to the contact person given at the end of the message. --DS] - - - - - - - - - - - - - Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences, Harvard University, is seeking a person to operate and maintain a PRISM gas source mass spectrometer. The position is half time (salary range: $16,400-26,350), although opportunity exists to expand the salary through joint research and outside contracts. Required/Preferred Education, Experience, Skills: B.S. or (preferably) M.S. in Earth Sciences required. Strong working knowledge of stable-isotope mass spectrometry systems a necessity. Excellent communication skills, organizational skills, entrepreneurial instincts required; must work independently, handle multiple simultaneous tasks, and interface with faculty, students, and Department administration. Duties & Responsibilities: Responsible for administration and oversight of departmental Prism IRMS system and its inlet configurations. Conducts and/or supervises maintenance, diagnostic, and repair procedures to keep instrumentation in top condition. Prepares materials for calibration and standardization of the instrument. Identifies and implements opportunities for Harvard and external use of the machine. Runs samples and prepares data summaries for external users. Schedules instrument time to accommodate user community and optimize cost recovery. Archives data for future retrieval. Keeps abreast of evolving hardware and software technology. Inventories and replenishes supplies and spare parts. Oversees expenditures and invoices users. Hours and salary expandable via joint-research and outside-user opportunities. Odd-hour commitments may be required occasionally. Interested persons please contact Debra Corbett, Dept. Earth and Planetary Sciences, Harvard Univ., 20 Oxford St., Cambridge, MA 02138, Tel: (617) 495-3949, email: corbett@eps.harvard.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:09:26 +0200 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Roland Glaser Subject: C14 and baggies Comments: cc: to.multiple.recipients.of.the.list@goanna.mpi-hd.mpg.de Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3risc v118.3) Dr. R.M. Kalin wrote at 17th. of september, that 10mg of plastic gets an error of 81 years in the lab measurement, dealing with an maybe bronze age date. That means, we get an error of 81 years in the uncalibrated C14-age. For archeologists, working with C14-dates, this error is unacceptable. For example, in the Middle European and SE-European Neolithic we are dealing with time spans of 20-50 calendar years, deriving from ceramic typology. In the 6th and 5th millenium an uncalibrated error of 81 years leads to an error of about 200-400 years in calibrated ages. If we accept this, it is no longer useful, to make C14-dates!!. I think, this seems to be a very serious problem !!!. We have to think about a standard for wrapping C14-samples in a good manner. After reading this discussion I am unsure what to say to my colleagues in our institute of prehistory at Heidelberg, how to get samples for C14-dating. Greetings Roland Glaeser, Archaeometry Research Group of the Heidelberg Academy of Sciences, project: C14-dates from the Neolithic and Chalcolithic in SE-Europe. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 11:20:16 PDT Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: "Dr. Robert M. Kalin" Subject: Re: C14 and baggies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII A reply to Roland Glaeser's message, I think you missed the point of my discussion.... 10 mg of plastic from a bag is a HUGE percentage of the total weight and is unlikely as a source of contamination from plastic degradation. There is a much greater probability of getting contamination from modern material or biological activity on a wet sample than getting 10 mg of contamination from plastics. Thus sample preservation and pretreatment relies on handling from site to lab. I would also like to point out that the choice of material to be dated and questions about how the material warrents or produces a reliable precise date is of equal or more importance to the measurement error for 14C dates in the 6th and 5th millenium. Trying to interpret 20 to 50 years (calendric) in this time period without using dendrochronology or high precision wiggle matching would seem to be more critical to your interpretations. 14C dating, like any scientific tool, can be use correctly (within the limits of the method) or incorrectly through misinterpretation of the method. A little common sense based on the limitations of the 14C methodology is more important than a 'standard' way of wrapping samples. I would say to users of 14C dating that each sample provenence is unique, and the sample handling should be considered individually for each case as well. Regards to all Bob Kalin ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 15:59:20 -0700 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: David Sewell Subject: C14-L Administrivia and 50th anniversary question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit One technical note and one substantive question for C14-L list members: 1. A while back we discussed whether the default "Reply-To" for C14-L postings should be the whole list or the individual sending a message. Most people felt it should be the former, in order to facilitate group discussion, although we occasionally have minor embarrassments when people accidentally send a reply to the entire list rather than to an individual. (I've made the mistake at least twice.) I didn't realize until recently that when you post to C14-L you can specify your own "Reply-To" header simply by including it in the posting. For example, if you post a call for papers or a job notice where the responses should definitely go only to you, just add a mail header reading Reply-To: myname@my.host.edu (substituting your own address, of course.) You can even redirect the Reply-To to another e-mail address if desired. Your Reply-To will take precedence over the default "Reply-To: c14-l@listserv.arizona.edu". Most e-mail programs have a menu item or option that lets you add a Reply-To header. 2. Does anyone know of any event being planned to commemorate the 50th anniversary of radiocarbon dating? Libby's first Chicago date, C-1, was done early in 1947, so I suppose 1997 is as good an "official" 50th birthday of 14C dating as any. If anyone feels like writing something commemorative for publication in RADIOCARBON, let us know. (As a note for anyone unfamiliar with the book, there was a major 40-year retrospective published in 1992 by Springer-Verlag as "Radiocarbon After Four Decades: An Interdisciplinary Perspective"; most of the essays it contains are in no need of updating yet, but maybe someone would be interested in addressing a different kind of historical overview or evaluation of the general contribution of radioisotope dating and measurement. As one example, I'd be interested in something exploring the convergence of historical and forensic identification techniques. [Around the RADIOCARBON office last year, we were joking that we should try to sell copies by running a cover article on "C-14 Dating and the O.J. Simpson Trial!" But in fact scientific dating has been involved in issues of nearly as much public controversy, from the Shroud of Turin to the earliest settlement records of Oceania and the New World. An article on the epistemology of scientific dating would be worthwhile.]) David S. -- RADIOCARBON: An International Journal of Cosmogenic Isotope Research Department of Geosciences, University of Arizona 4717 E. Ft. Lowell Rd., Tucson, Arizona 85712 USA Telephone: 1-520-881-0857 Fax: 1-520-881-0554 General e-mail address: c14@packrat.aml.arizona.edu WWW server: http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:09:41 -0400 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Greg Laden Organization: Harvard Faculty of Arts and Sciences Subject: Re: C14-L Administrivia and 50th anniversary question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>>>> 2. Does anyone know of any event being planned to commemorate the 50th anniversary of radiocarbon dating? Libby's first Chicago date, C-1, was done early in 1947, so I suppose 1997 is as good an "official" 50th birthday of 14C dating as any.>>>>>> Good idea. It's interesting that radiocarbon dating dates to 3 b.p. -- Greg Laden Department of Anthropology Harvard University gladen@fas.harvard.edu http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~gladen/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Oct 1996 21:29:55 -0700 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Dick Meehan Subject: Re: C14-L Administrivia and 50th anniversary question In-Reply-To: <325AFB55.104@fas.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know the story of C1? I seem to remember it was some Egyptian temple, 2500 BCE or the like. Must have been pretty exciting, getting that wood to talk. Dick Meehan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 11:17:12 EDT Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: "Donald M. Thieme" Subject: Re: C14-L Administrivia and 50th anniversary question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT The Step Pyramid of Zoser, I believe. This is in the "after Four Decades" review article by Taylor. As I recall, the archaeologists had the age wrong at the time and so it did not conclusively prove the accuracy of C14 dating. It was also dated as a solid not by gas proportional counting, of course. ============================================================ >>> Donald M. Thieme dthieme@uga.cc.uga.edu <<< <<< Geomorphologist/Archaeological Geologist >>> >>> Department of Geology, University of Georgia <<< <<< Athens, GA 30601 (706) 542-2430 >>> ============================================================ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Oct 1996 08:46:59 -0700 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Austin Long Organization: Geosciences / University of Arizona Subject: C14-L Administrivia and 50th anniversary question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To my knowledge, the first "date list" was Arnold and Libby, 1951 Science (vol. 113, p. 111-120. Dates were listed not as "C", but as "our number". No. 1 is Zoser: acacia wood beam from Zoser's tomb. Their reported result was 3979 +/- 350. I hope all of you get a chance sometime to hear Jim Arnold recount (no pun) those early days of the development of radiocarbon dating. Austin Long Dick Meehan wrote: > > Does anyone know the story of C1? I seem to remember it was some Egyptian > temple, 2500 BCE or the like. Must have been pretty exciting, getting > that wood to talk. > > Dick Meehan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 00:52:17 -0700 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Greg Doudna Organization: Teologisk Fakultet Subject: Re: Libby 1951 question I am not in the radiocarbon field but in a position of being asked to write articles (well, one in particular) explaining radiocarbon intricacies to those who know less than me in my field of Qumran (Dead Sea Scrolls). The reminiscing about Libby brings this question: one of the (later) 1951 dates Libby reported was of an item of linen associated with the Scrolls. How accurate is a 1951 Libby date? (I know about using current calibration--the question is the reliability or precision of the radiocarbon measurement.) Was a 1951 Libby measurement equivalent or worse than, say, capabilities for precision in the 1970's? What plus-minus number would be reasonable to enter with the BP number when running a calibration today of a 1951 Libby measurement? 50? Or is that unrealistically low? Greg Doudna gd@teol.ku.dk mail address: University of Copenhagen Institut for Bibelsk Eksegese Kobmagergade 44-46 1150 Kobenhavn Denmark ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 09:59:09 +0200 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Peter Becker-Heidmann Subject: C14 dating (fwd) Content-Type: text Dear colleagues, as the following request from another list is appropriately adressed here, I forward it to C14-L: ------------------------------------------------------------------- Forwarded message: > From owner-quaternary@MORGAN.UCS.MUN.CA Thu Oct 10 23:29:25 1996 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Message-Id: > Date: Thu, 10 Oct 1996 15:26:36 -0600 > Reply-To: Research in Quaternary Science > Sender: Research in Quaternary Science > From: Angelique Prick > Subject: C14 dating > To: Multiple recipients of list QUATERNARY > > > Dave Baines, an undergraduated student in geography at the University of > Calgary is looking for bibliographic references about C14 as a dating > method, i.e. general books and articles about the method itself, the way > to collect and to handle samples, the laboratory work, ... > If you can help him, please send your messages directly to : > cdbaines@acs.ucalgary.ca > > Many thanks, > > A. Prick > > -^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ > Dr Angelique L. PRICK > Chargee de Recherches au Fonds Nat. Belge de la Recherche Scient., > Visiting Assistant Professor at the University of Calgary, > > University of Calgary - Department of Geography > 2500 University Drive N.W. - Calgary Alberta T2L 1N5 - Canada > Tel: (403) 220 25 75 - Fax: (403) 282 65 61 > E-mail: prick@acs.ucalgary.ca > -^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ > -- Peter Becker-Heidmann Institut fuer Bodenkunde Phone: +49 40 4123 2003 Allende-Platz 2 Fax: +49 40 4123 2024 D-20146 Hamburg E-Mail: PBeckerH@Uni-Hamburg.de GERMANY WWW: http://www.geowiss.uni-hamburg.de/geo/i-boden/tt14c.htm ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1996 09:56:14 SAST-2 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Mike Meadows Organization: UCT Subject: ams dates MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT C14-types We have some samples of benthic and planktonic forams from continental shelf sediments that we require dating. There are relatively few individual forams per sample, is it possible that these can be dated using ams - in other words, what is the minimum quantity of this kind of material that can yield a reasonably reliable date? The sediments are definitely Holocene and mostly late Holocene. Oh, and by the way - the samples HAVEN'T been kept in plastic bags! Mike Meadows ***************************************************************** From: Associate Professor Mike Meadows Department of Environmental and Geographical Science University of Cape Town, Rondebosch 7700, South Africa Tel: (27) 21-650 2877 Fax: (27) 21 650 3791 Email: MEADOWS@ENVIRO.UCT.AC.ZA ***************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 08:16:23 -0700 Reply-To: beth@cochran.com Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: David Sewell Subject: Video footage of C-14 lab needed Comments: cc: beth@cochran.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Dear C14-L people: A Canadian television production company is working on a project for which they would very much like to find videotape footage of radiocarbon dating to use as background illustration. They don't need a lot of material, 30 seconds' worth or so. They know about the instructional video that was produced a few years ago at the University of Barcelona, but have not been able to obtain it yet. If you have or know of a videotape that might be appropriate for this purpose, contact Beth Ellenberger, beth@cochran.com. She can also furnish more information on the nature of the TV project. David S. -- RADIOCARBON: An International Journal of Cosmogenic Isotope Research Department of Geosciences, University of Arizona 4717 E. Ft. Lowell Rd., Tucson, Arizona 85712 USA Telephone: 1-520-881-0857 Fax: 1-520-881-0554 General e-mail address: c14@packrat.aml.arizona.edu WWW server: http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Oct 1996 11:58:13 -0500 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: james burton Subject: How accurate is Carbon-14 dating? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" List subscribers might be "interested" in checking out the perspective on "How the C-14 Clock Works" at: http://christiananswers.net/ac017.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 09:23:42 -0700 Reply-To: consci@bournemouth.ac.uk Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: David Sewell Subject: Student Researchship, Archaelogical Sciences MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit [posted for Bournemouth U. -- reply to them. DS] BOURNEMOUTH UNIVERSITY School of Conservation Sciences Research Studentship in Archaeological Science Applications are invited from suitably qualified individuals for a recently created postgraduate studentship in the field of archaeological science. A bursary of 5000 (UKP) per annum, renewable annually for a maximum of three years, is available. The successful applicant will carry out a research programme of his/her choice, leading to the submission of a thesis for examination for the award of an MPhil or PhD. Full-time postgraduate fees will be payable by the student for each year of enrollment. Applications will be judged through open competition: short-listed candidates may be asked to make a short presentation on their proposals. Any area of archaeo-scientific research supported by facilities in the School would be considered, but work in the following areas would be especially encouraged: physical or chemical analysis of ancient artefacts or materials (especially ceramics, lithics, building materials, or metals); the conservation of archaeological materials; the investigation of archaeological soils and their constituents; or osteoarchaeology (human or animal). Facilities available within the School include: fourier transform infra-red spectroscopy (FTIR), gas chromatography (GC), atomic absorption spectrometry (AAS), high performance liquid chromatography (HPLC), ion chromatography (IC), scanning electron microscopy with associated energy dispersive x-ray micro-analysis (SEM/EDAX), ultra-violet/visible spectroscopy (UV-VIS), x-radiography, and thin-section facilities. No forms are available for this post: applications should consist of a letter outlining your interest in this opportunity, a full curriculum vitae, and a brief outline (maximum two sides of A4 paper) of the research programme you would like to undertake. This outline should state the aims, objectives and background of the work, the methodology you propose using, and a provisional work programme. The successful candidate will be expected to begin their research programme in January 1997. Further information about archaeology in the School of Conservation Sciences can be found on the WWW at: http://csweb.bournemouth.ac.uk/consci/text/archgrp.htm Applications should be sent to: Professor Bryan Brown Head of School, School of Conservation Sciences, Bournemouth University, Dorset House, Talbot Campus, Fern barrow, Poole. Dorset. BH12 5BB. United Kingdom Complete applications to arrive no later than 5.00pm on 15th November 1996. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 14:05:09 -0600 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Dia Couttouw Subject: updated radiocarbon conversion program MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I am aware of the CALIB 3.0 (or the most updated version) compiled by Stuiver and Reimer at the Quaternary Research Center at the U of Washington. Does anyone know how I can get a hold of this program, and equally important instructions to download and utilize it? I am working with a Macintosh format. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 08:44:27 +1200 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Tom Higham Subject: Re: updated radiocarbon conversion program MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I am aware of the CALIB 3.0 (or the most updated version) compiled by >Stuiver and Reimer at the Quaternary Research Center at the U of Washington. >Does anyone know how I can get a hold of this program, and equally important >instructions to download and utilize it? I am working with a Macintosh format. If you access the following ftp address you can download a macintosh version of CALIB 3.0 called MacCalib. Just click (if using a WWW platform) and it will download. If you have the right program to unstuff it, will then install itself on your hard disk. It operates the same as the DOS version, menu driven, but on my Powerbook 520 is a lot slower than on an IBM compatible, so with large numbers of calibrated dates I use the PC version. The ftp address is: ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/qil/calib There is a readme file there for more information on the basics of running the program. I hope this helps, All the best, ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Thomas Higham, * Email: Thigham@waikato.ac.nz Deputy Director, * Phone: +(64) 07 838 4278 Radiocarbon Dating Laboratory, * Fax: +(64) 7 838 4192 University of Waikato, * WWW: Radiocarbon WEB-info: Hamilton, http://www2.waikato.ac.nz/c14/webinfo/index.html NEW ZEALAND. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:30:34 +1200 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Tom Higham Subject: Conventional/classical dating MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Dear List, At a conference in Australia next year, I have noticed the organisers use of the term "Classical" to describe the Liquid Scintillation Counting and Gas Proportional radiocarbon dating methods, as opposed to AMS. I always thought that the former were described as "Conventional" methods. To me the word Classical calls to mind terms like restraint and conservatism. I am interested to know whether this term is becoming more common and replacing Conventional, or whether this is just a local Australian term. Has anyone else struck "Classical" radiocarbon dating before? Cheers, ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Thomas Higham, * Email: Thigham@waikato.ac.nz Radiocarbon Dating Laboratory, * Phone: +(64) 07 838 4278 University of Waikato, * Fax: +(64) 7 838 4192 Hamilton, * WWW: Radiocarbon WEB-info: NEW ZEALAND. http://www2.waikato.ac.nz/c14/webinfo/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 00:51:06 +0200 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: "Jose M. Bello Dieguez" Organization: ArchaeoGalicia Subject: Re: Conventional/classical dating MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Higham wrote: > > Conventional, or whether this is just a local Australian term. Has anyone > else struck "Classical" radiocarbon dating before? I have never heard "Classical". At Spain we say "Conventional", but I shall ask my collegues. Friendly, Jose M. Bello Museo Arqueologico de La Corunna. Asociacion Profesional de Arqueologos de Galicia. http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/1185 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 05:56:24 -0700 Reply-To: Beta Analytic Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Beta Analytic Subject: Re: Conventional/classical dating We've seen the word "Classical" on occassion but it is not a universally understood term. Here at Beta, we don't use the term "Conventional" method much. It generates confusion..."Conventional C14 Age"..."The Conventional method"..."The Conventional C14 Age on an AMS sample"...etc. We routinely use the term "Radiometric method". This direct terminology voids the confusion. Darden Hood Director ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 10:12:40 -0700 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Timothy Jull Subject: Australian interpretations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was asked to post this to the list. Tim Jull ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 23:33:41 +1000 From: "TUNIZ, Claudio" To: 'jull' Subject: RE: San Diego Workshop >The term classical instead of conventional for radiocarbon dating based >on the radiometric method was proposed by Mike Barbetti, Director of the >NWG Macintosh Centre for Quaternary Dating in Sydney. It looked a good >idea. >My Oxford Dictionary says, among other things, that "classical" means " >of proved value because of having passed the test of time". >Cheers, >C. Tuniz > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >------------------------------------- >Sixth Australasian Archaeometry Conference >"Australasian Archaeometry: Retrospective for the New Millennium" >Sydney, 10-13 February, 1997. >Co-Chairmen >Claudio Tuniz, ANSTO >Richard Fullagar, Australian Museum >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 10:18:20 -0700 Reply-To: dsew@packrat.aml.arizona.edu Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: David Sewell Subject: Administrative; Scientific style question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 1. The Listserv software used to distribute C14-L has a new option. If you want all mailings from this list to have a Subject line with the list name prepended like so: [C14-L], send the following command to listserv@listserv.arizona.edu in an e-mail message: SET C14-L SUBJ From then on, all your C14-L mailings will have subject lines resembling the one in this message. (I added [C14-L] by hand; when you use the "SET SUBJ" command, Listserv will do that automatically.) 2. At RADIOCARBON, we're about to revise the "Instructions for Authors" document that is periodically printed in the journal and distributed to people submitting papers for the international 14C Conference. We would like to move toward simplified guidelines that conform to international standards, but this is harder than it sounds. Publication is governed by a confusing mix of formal standards (ISO, ANSI, etc.), style manuals issued by various scientific associations, and style sheets of individual journals. We have seen "Instructions for Authors" as short as 1 page (e.g., JOURNAL OF ARCHAEOLOGICAL SCIENCE) and as long as 20 pages (AMERICAN ANTIQUITY). So we'd appreciate some feedback from those of you who publish about what kinds of guidelines you find most useful. Do you prefer long, detailed instructions from an individual journal, or do you prefer to rely on a standard style manual? If the latter, which one do you prefer? One recent attempt to provide a comprehensive style manual for scientific publishing is the 6th edition of SCIENTIFIC STYLE AND FORMAT, published by the Council of Biology Editors (Cambridge UP, 1994). It covers natural sciences but not social sciences. If you're familiar with this volume, what are your thoughts? I've set the Reply-To: to me, but if you have remarks on conventions of scientific publication that you want to share with the list feel free to post a general response. David S. -- RADIOCARBON: An International Journal of Cosmogenic Isotope Research Department of Geosciences, University of Arizona 4717 E. Ft. Lowell Rd., Tucson, Arizona 85712 USA Telephone: 1-520-881-0857 Fax: 1-520-881-0554 General e-mail address: c14@packrat.aml.arizona.edu WWW server: http://packrat.aml.arizona.edu/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996 16:15:19 -0500 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: "Barry E. Muller" Subject: Radioecology Listserver MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, Is there a radioecology listserver? Any information is appreciated. Barry Muller bmuller@pop3.utoledo.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 09:14:13 -0600 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: "Joseph F Whelan, Geologist, Denver, CO (Joe Whelan)" Subject: Dating of DOC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am curious as to whether C-14 determinations of DOC is a reliable means of determining the ages of groundwaters. Any leads as to its usefulness and appropriate field and laboratory techniques will be appreciated. Thanks "Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves" - Chief Seattle Joseph F. Whelan Mail Stop 963 U.S. Geological Survey PO Box 25046 Federal Center Denver CO 80225 (303) 236-7671 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996 13:57:02 -0400 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Karl Steinen Subject: AMS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Would someone please provide a linguistically simple reference for how AMS works in 14C dating? Thanks Karl Steinen ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 13:47:53 -1000 Reply-To: Radiocarbon Mailing List Sender: Radiocarbon Mailing List From: Tom Dye Subject: Re: AMS In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Karl, Sheridan Bowman, 1990, _Radiocarbon dating_, University of California Press, Berkeley does a good job. Tom On Sat, 26 Oct 1996, Karl Steinen wrote: > Would someone please provide a linguistically simple reference for how > AMS works in 14C dating? > > Thanks > > Karl Steinen